This isn’t just an event—it’s a journey.
What If: In Between Worlds invites you to step beyond the edge of the known and into the electric space where spirit, essence, and story collide.

This immersive event sets an entirely new model for how the paranormal is explored, taught, and experienced.
Across professional workshops, unique presentations and investigations with a twist, you’ll question everything you thought was real—and discover what’s waiting just beyond the veil.
It’s not about chasing ghosts. It’s about awakening the parts of you that remember the unseen, the energy that hums between moments, the whispers that follow wonder.
Come curious. Leave changed. Because what if everything you’ve felt… was true?

First 15 Registrants receive a ‘What If’ Kit upon arrival at event.

This event is non-refundable.

When you book your stay at the Palmer House Hotel for the event, you’ll receive Thursday night free when you book and pay for Friday and Saturday nights. Please note that single-night stays aren’t available.

After you purchase your event tickets, you’ll get a confirmation message with a special password. You’ll need this password to reserve your room at the Palmer House—rooms can’t be booked without it. If the Palmer is full try the AmericInn in Sauk Centre or hotels in Alexandria.

PLUS: There just might be a few surprises as we get closer for those who are registered by Jan. 30, 2026. Don’t miss out on this! SIGN Up today!

• The right of admission is reserved. Tickets cannot be exchanged, refunded or returned after purchase. 

• Management reserves the right to add, withdraw or substitute sessions and to vary the advertised program, if necessary.

• Tickets guarantee access to the entire event except for add-ones which must be purchased separately.

• By attending this event you give your consent to being photographed or filmed as a member of the audience.

• This may be used for promotional activity.

• A liability waiver must be signed prior to the event as required by sponsor’s business insurance. Waivers to be signed at event sign-in.

• Terms and conditions are prepared with your safety in mind. Thank you in advance for helping to make a What If - In Between Worlds a safe, fun and enlightened retreat. 

Dustin Pari - featured guest

Dustin Pari is a TV personality, paranormal researcher, seasoned author and motivational lecturer who gained widespread recognition through his appearances on the popular television shows Sy-Fy’s Ghost Hunters, Ghost Hunters International and Destination Truth as well as Travel Channel’s Ghost Nation. Dustin is currently a featured researcher on Travel Channel’s Ghost Hunters also streaming on Discovery +. The New England native has become a notable figure in the realm of paranormal research.

Dustin's journey into the world of the supernatural began at a young age, fueled by a deep fascination with the unknown. His involvement with Ghost Hunters and Ghost Hunters International allowed him to showcase his expertise and passion for exploring haunted locations alongside other investigators. He quickly became a fan favorite for his affable personality and genuine dedication to uncovering the truth behind reported hauntings.

Being on television as a paranormal investigator happened quite by accident, but there is clearly something to be said for accidents being best described as “hard work meets opportunity”. Dustin soon found himself working alongside the best in the field such as ‘The Godfather of the Paranormal’, Mr. John Zaffis, being interviewed by celebrity broadcaster Anderson Cooper (and several other top-notch media outlets) as well as presenting to representatives for animation giant Pixar Studios.

Amidst his nonstop schedule, Dustin has also authored a variety of books treasured by readers worldwide. Kaleidoscope: Fragments of my Life, And the Devil Shivered, What’s Next, My Home is Haunted… Now What? and The Complete Approach are just the beginning!

One of Dustin's most recent notable endeavors is his theater tour titled Ghosts: Do You Believe? This live event combined storytelling, multimedia presentations, and audience interaction to explore the realm of the paranormal in a captivating and engaging format. Through Ghosts: Do You Believe? Pari continues to inspire curiosity and wonder about the mysteries of the afterlife.

Beyond his work in television, on stage and in literature, Dustin is a sought-after motivational speaker, sharing his knowledge and experiences with audiences around the globe. Determined to leave a legacy of kindness, Dustin goes forth with a helpful heart to change the world. Be it at middle schools, high schools, corporate meetings, or social gathering halls, Dustin delivers a positive message that is entertaining and life-changing. He is thankful for the opportunity to help others as we all walk through this life together.

CH Jodi Dehn - visionary guest

Jodi M. Dehn is a communicator of both worlds—the seen and the unseen. A former broadcast journalist with 17 years in radio and television, her voice has been heard worldwide—from Minnesota Public Radio to broadcasts across 42 military installations and the Pentagon.

Today, Jodi merges that storytelling expertise with her work as creator and director of The Skeptic Veil TV series, Survivor Angels podcast and LIVE Beyond with Sarah & Jodi—projects that explore the meeting point between science, spirituality, and personal transformation. As founder of Empyreal Lyceum, she develops courses that bridge metaphysical study, angelic energy, and consciousness exploration.

An engaging speaker and retreat leader, Jodi co-hosts live retreats with psychic medium Sarah Lemos, blending investigation, intuition, and awakening. She’s been featured at several major paranormal events and teaches on topics such as sacred geometry, angels, aliens and demons, and the light-shadow balance within spiritual growth.

As an author, Jodi has written five books, including Angel Trippin’: Your Guide to Angel Adventures, Cerebrate! Oracle Guidance from Your Angels, and Soul Protectors – A Conversation of Mystery,, alongside two additional works expanding her angelic and metaphysical explorations.

With a Master of Divinity and background as a U.S. Army chaplain, Jodi brings grounded spiritual insight to every platform—whether through books, TV, podcasts, or live events. Her mission is to ignite curiosity, expand awareness, and invite others to think beyond the known as they discover the vast, living dialogue between seen and unseen.

Larry Eisler III - spotlight guest

As seen on the 44th Annual Telly Awards winning series, Expedition Entity, from the PARAFlixx Paranormal+ Network. Larry is an author, filmmaker, and historian focusing on lesser-known haunted locations in the American Midwest. His current research project focuses on the Black Hawk War of 1832, where he has published his findings in his book "Ghosts of the Black Hawk War." Larry also co-authored the fictional book "Afterlife Anthology," which he wrote with Dan Norvell and published through Haunted Road Media. While attending Northern Illinois University in 2020, Larry added Communications as his minor and discovered a love of filming. That following year, the second iteration of Expedition Entity premiered on the PARAFlixx network and won numerous indie film awards for Best Web Series and Best Educational Film. In 2022, Larry graduated with his B.S. in History and, in 2024, his M.A. in Communications from Northern Illinois University, emphasizing media studies, documentary production, and field production.

Jennifer Zambonin - intermediary guest

Jennifer Anaya Zambonin is a psychic medium and Reiki master with the instincts of an investigator and the insight of someone who’s walked both sides of the veil. A retired California law enforcement officer and founder of Soul Connection, she approaches the paranormal with discernment, evidence, and fearless curiosity. Where others speculate, Jennifer listens—to energy, to spirit, and to truths that refuse to stay hidden. She bridges worlds with clarity, grit, and respect for what waits in the dark. Jennifer appears on Beyond the Veil - Navigating the Awakening a monthly series on Survivor Angels podcast.

Jessica Hoch/Moxie Malas - luminary guest

“You deserve to feel grounded, clear, and connected—to your purpose and to yourself.”

Jessica Hoch is a motivational speaker, yoga and meditation teacher, and the founder of Moxie Malas—a company devoted to the healing power of crystals and intentional living. With over 15 years of experience guiding women through emotional and energetic transformation, Jessica weaves the energy of crystals, the art of intention, and mindful practices into accessible tools for everyday clarity and balance. Her work reminds us that when we align with crystal energy, we rediscover our own.

• WEEKEND EXPERIENCE SUBJECT TO SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS, AS NECESSARY.

Larry brings in the technical and investigative side, Dustin brings the heart and storytelling, Jodi brings the celestial and spiritual wisdom, and Jessica adds earth energy and crystal essence. Also, just added, Jennifer brings the bridge.

THURSDAY NIGHT –

Registration 6:30 - 7:00 PM

7:00–9:00 PM Event Opening

The Angelic Frequency — Opening to Divine Communication  Jodi M. Dehn. Connecting with angels and intuitive guidance/Spirit or Angel/Demon or Alien

FRIDAY – 

3:00-5:00PM Final Registration/Meet&Greet and vendor tables available

7:00–8:30 PM

Dustin Pari & Jodi M. Dehn 

Through the Veil: Messages from the Seen & Unseen

The heart-opening keynote event blending wonder, wisdom, and audience interaction.

• Dustin shares real stories of connection and hope from his years in paranormal exploration.

• Jodi reveals angelic-other encounters and divine patterns that guide our human journey. Even the demon side.

• Together, they lead the interactive experience Finish This Sentence & What If, letting the audience shape the conversation with laughter, vulnerability, and insight.

8:30-11:00 Investigation PLUS a unigue simultaneous activity with Jen Zambonin.

SATURDAY –

1:00-5:00 Vendor Tables available [except during meal times & some talent presentations]

1:00–2:00 Haunted Lessons — Hope Beyond the Shadows Dustin Pari Finding purpose and peace in paranormal experiences

2:00-2:30 Break

2:30–3:30 Crystals & the Energies of the Earth Jessica Hoch How crystals affect your paranormal experiences.

3:30-3:45 Break

3:45-4:45 Workshop: Paranormal Investigation — The Art of Spirit Photography & Equipment Mastery with Larry Eisler III

7:00-8:00 The Bridge Between Realms — Messages Across the Veil Q&A with Dustin and the Team. Exploring the nuances of spirit communication.

8:30-11:00 Investigation combined with a simultaneous activity with a twist.

11:00 - 12:00 Closing & Farewell All Presenters Gratitude, final reflections

**Subject to slight modifications as determined by talent & venue.